Steve: Oh hell yeah these dudes are the coolest. The Tremere clan. They're like the wizards of Vampire.

Zack: What about the mages?

Steve: Mage is a separate game based on hermetic magic.

Zack: So what kind of magic do these guys use?

Steve: Thaumaturgy blood magic.

Zack: So they're blood mages?

Steve: Those would be Verbena.

Zack: That's a vampire clan?

Steve: That's a Tradition of mages.

Zack: In vampire?

Steve: In Mage.

Zack: Steve fucking kill me right now.
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